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This is good/wise: "Both of these will come with a red flag warning system (Butthead security system, if you will) where people can report concerns to us that we will then follow up on. If we receive three similar complaints, we will contact the magazine. If we receive no response or an unsatisfactory one, we will flag a magazine's listing on our database. We think this is a better method than removing a magazine from the database because then nobody will know."

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Yeah we've given it a lot of thought and hope people will like it (and that the results will be fair and comprehensive)

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I have faith. I know y'all are putting in the hours!!

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As editor of a very new litmag, let's just say I will watch with interest as you shave the corners off the square wheel of quality assessment. You might think of a category like 'Usually kind and helpful but known to get grumpy if YOU DON'T FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES'. Maybe something shorter like 'SPAMMER DEATH ZONE'. ;-)

PS - Nikita is right.

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hahahaah I will happily give Witcraft a 'SPAMMER DEATH ZONE' tag

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Regarding buttheadness, I once read something pretty insightful on a bicycle mag post. It was regarding how most times bike shops are seen as butthead places you wont be comfortable visiting. And it went like this “If you go to a shop and they are buttheads, leave, if you go to the next one and those are buttheads as well, leave, and if you go to a third shop and they are buttheads, maybe the butthead is you?”

and regarding swearwords, also on another reading place I read that if you sometimes let slip a swear word on a business, interview, etc, you come up as more honest as you aren’t actively filtering your speech. So yeah, go insult your boss you might get a raise or sumtin (just kidding people!)

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hahahaha yes! I am totally going to use that the next time Nikita tsks me. Thank you

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haha, so funny: "We have a very good reason for not gathering a lot of qualitative data. Because, hear me out. It's really hard to do."

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Users' feedback is the best rating system ever.

Yes, badges + comments would be a better method than "removing a magazine from the database - - because then nobody will know."

* * * * Question: every week I go to zines that are supposedly open for submission (listed by many sources including Submittable, Authors Publish, Cathy, Erica, Angela, etc.) - - only to see a sad note from an EIC that this was their FINAL issue due to illness, etc.

In those cases, Ben, I wanted to know what user feedback gives your team the least amount of work:

(a.) a screen capture of the actual message or (b.) just the link to the "it's curtains" page.

Thank you for all the TLC and hard work you do.

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Hi Oo, we are actually going to be implementing something for that as well but not sure when. Basically a button on any listing page to report any incorrect data or defunct status changes. It will be synced to different spots so we will know exactly what it is about and can react quickly

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Thanks again!!! Ideally, we'll see a button for "Note posted by EIC to bid adieu" and a 2nd one - - - "WARNING: writers have reported being scammed by contest fees collected & no winners published."

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Dec 8, 2023Liked by Benjamin Davis

You hit the nail on the butthead!

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Dec 7, 2023Liked by Benjamin Davis

Swearing? No big deal!

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Haha thank you!

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This is amazing and so smart

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This essay is BRILLIANT! I especially love (and I'm NOT being sarcastic, I swear) the opening two sentences: "Any butthead can start a lit mag. This means that some folks running lit mags are buttheads." What an opening! Love you all at Chill Subs, OMG!!! <333 Bobby Parrott

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I am so heartened that you all are working for submitters to reflect what matters in their experience. Stats about acceptance rates are great, but this is EVEN BETTER.

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